Oh, it was around 2002,2003, Richard decided he was going to go off grid and live in a cabin in the mountains here in Colorado. He got ready, we took him up...the lack of basic necessities didn't go over to well with him! He was freezing as soon as he moved in, and hiking in the cold yo get well water he did NOT like, LOL! Trips up the hill to take supplies was quite the harrowing experience, as the road was steep and narrow, white knuckle ride for sure. He was up there a few months before that experience was finished, soon he came to stay either me a few months, til he moved on to his next adventure. He was in a band once that opened for the Blue Man Group, you know..rest easy now, brother. You are loved -brenda